Anybody over 40 who follows politics in the least knows exactly who Robert Bork is. My recollection is he was nominated to the Supreme Court and rejected by the Senate for being a conservative extremist. Wikipedia more or less reinforced what I remembered.

Dennis, please review Biden's remarks. He didn't state that Romney would put Bork on the court. He said look at who Romney's advisor is (Bork) as a bellweather of the type of justice Romney would appoint.

As to most Americans not knowing who Bork is, you're probably right.

You did not listen to what he said very closely, or you would know you have misstated what the vp said. He said that Robert Bork is Romney's adviser for who to select to put onto the court.

And when you are talking about the selection of a person who would be appointed for life to decide issues which will effect all Americans for generations, then you damn well out to find out who the person who is selected is.

Romney/Ryan are liars. Romney/Ryan killed a woman with breast cancer. Romney/Ryan are causing the Libyan Embassing scandal. We get your message.

Ryan sat there with a stupid grin on his face and made bold face lies about the policies and programs that he and Romney are proposing.

Just as Ryan correctly stated that you can not TAX those making over $250K to balance the budget, because there are simply not enough of them - So too you can not cut enough loopholes and deductions from what the rich take advantage of and even begin to offset a 20% cut in tax rates for those making over $250K. It is mathematically impossible - there simply are not enough of them taking enough deductions to make the math work. You have to raise the taxes on the middle class and poor to make the math work. Ryan lied about this simple truth.

@Sheldon -
You are correct on your first point - Romney and Ryan both told lies with smiles on their faces. But in their defense, they did tell a few truths also.

You are wrong on the second point, although I do not blame the man for feeling that way, he did lose his wife and he is looking for someone to blame.

I am not sure exactly what your third statement is, since I do not know what an Embassing is. I am guessing you are talking about the attacks in Libya and the testimony that added security had been requested. But Sheldon - get your facts straight. The requests were for the Embassy in Libya, and that is hundreds of miles from the CONSULATE that was the site of the attacks where the Ambassador was murdered. So increased security at the Embassy, which is in Tripoli, would not really have helped in the far less secure Consulate, which is on the other side of the country. And the email that they are flashing around of FAUX news, is about the denial of the use of a DC-3 aircraft, which really would not have been a whole lot of use in the center of a crowded city. And they keep insisting on clouding the issue with the statements made about the protests in Egypt, which were indeed about the u-Tube video. But that was hours earlier in the day and in another country.

So you can keep trying to gin up a scandal, but probably ought to wait until the investigations are complete before you throw around a lot of stupid accusations.

sounds like you like the way that muslim is leading this country..... maybe you might consider moving to another country. Obama has done a shitty job and all these damn democrats can do is pass the buck. Grow up

David, do you have a problem with Islam? Islam has a rich tradition in this country and has a rightful place in the cultural fabric of our society along with Christianity, Judaism, and any other religion people wish to pursue -- or no religion at all.

I am comfortable with that, as is anyone who truly, deeply understands what this country stands for. If that bothers you, may I politely suggest you consider signing up for an American history class at your local community college? Never stop learning, I always say!

"sounds like you like the way that muslim is leading this country..... maybe you might consider moving to another country. Obama has done a shitty job and all these damn democrats can do is pass the buck. Grow up"

You want to know what's really shitty? Hillbillies with internet access.

Caffeinated LOL----Your comment is so well positioned at that particular poster. Thanks for the laugh---and thank you for the language. It is a sharpening of the point you made. :)

Ryan was disrespectful in his manor toward the VP. He continually tried to hog the time for reply's, and then when Biden tired of listening to him go on and on, and not allow Biden to reply, he began to interrupt. And when Biden interrupted a string of outright lies that Ryan was putting forth, Ryan made his prepackaged line about Biden being under duress; I thought Ryan sounded like a snotty spoiled child. That was the least presidential or even adult statement that I have heard any of the four candidates make to date.

@Elizabeth - I have to disagree with your take on who was being rude and the time given to make their points. On more than one occasion, Ryan went on and on, well into the time that should have been available for Biden to make his reply. Biden at least twice asked if he would be given time to reply while Ryan continued to talk. And in the last question before the wrap-up, Ryan spoke for 45 seconds and the moderator told Biden he had only 15 seconds left.

Ryan seemed to have a clear strategy of using as much of the time as he could, so Biden would not have time to rebut any claims he made.

Ryan also failed to answer many of the questions, even when the question was restated or repeated by the moderator. His statement that the details of the deductions and loopholes to be closed would be done with the Democrats in congress is beyond laughable. That is EXACTLY what Obama thought would happen when he tried to work out health care and jobs bills, and he was greeted with total obstructionism. Please keep in mind that Paul Ryan was one of the Republicans who were recorded the night of Obama's' inauguration, planning out how to defeat him for political reasons, and agreeing to block any attempt by Obama to do anything.

@Elizabeth - Your comment about Biden and Benghazi assumes that the intelligence community did not indeed tell the Administration that this was more protests, turned violent; just as was taking place in Egypt.

And both Ryan and Romney continually are mixing elements of what happened in Egypt and Libya, as if they were one in the same. They both have referred to the attack as being on the Embassy. But the Embassy in Libya is hundreds of miles from the consulate in Benghazi. And such a location is never fortified to the level that an Embassy would be. Romney released a press statement condemning the Administration for apologizing for American values before we even knew that the Ambassador had been killed. Trying to make political hay our of a tragedy, while it was still unfolding. Now they are continuing this by making accusations that the president or vice president knew that extra security had been requested and had in some way personally denied the request. That is absurd on so many levels. And they ignore that the very memos that they are saying prove the requests and that the Administration is trying to cover up something, are all about the Embassy in Tripoli, hundreds of miles from the Benghazi consulate where the attacks took place. They are either ignorant of geography, or willing to say anything to score political points, no mater the facts.

What implausible tales? Like the one Obama and his administration told about our ambassador that was killed due to a movie? Isn't it more like they asked for more security and didn't receive it and didn't the administration say there were protests all day when there weren't any protests until the killers jumped over the wall at 9:40 p.m.? Weren't there already threats from the Taliban to kill our people at the embassy and that's why they wanted more security? The entire time, drunken Joe Biden the ass, laughed about some very serious problems in this country. That's what the American people are to this administration, a big joke! Joe Biden was himself as he always is and his goofy, buffoon smile is the real face of a goofy buffoon administration that is killing our country and putting us in peril with Terrorists throughout the world - oh that's right, Obama said that Al Qaeda is less of a threat now.

@ Linda Van de Riet - There were countless implausible tales, and most men would have not laughed at the lies that Ryan was tell, but would simply have said he was lying. Ryan said that the 5 trillion in tax cuts he and Romney are proposing would not reduce the taxes that the rich are paying, but then refuses to outline the actual deductions and loopholes that would be dropped. That is because there simply are not enough loopholes and deductions to close to even begin to make up for the lost revenue from a 20% cut in rates.

Most reports I have seen say the attack started at 10:00PM, but I guess 9:40PM is close enough. But you mention the need for security at the Embassy. You do know the Embassy is in Tripoli, and hundreds of miles from where the Ambassador was killed - don't you? All the security in the world at the Tripoli Embassy would not have helped in Benghazi.

Biden played the 'emotion' card. The split screen told us of his disdain against R&R ticket? Ryan's responses were accurate: not fleshed out in fullness. Ryan won--by every poll i have seen today. SYRIA massacre--NO ANSWER; AQAP involvement withheld 2 wks. The Q about what would be cut under Romney---will by his own statement have to be Bi-partisan---thereby not knowable before a Romney election. ROMNEY LISTENS. BO and BI are in a world of their own--This is a match of distinct paths: the rule of LAW? or the rule of FIAT. Romeny is the former, bo is the latter. re budget cuts: Paul Ryan said at least 3 times--any budgetary cuts will be bipartisan---and there fore he cannot irresponsibly just call out programs in the absence of hearing out the Democrats when he is not in office. THIS IS WHY Ryan cannot answer: Romney is not yet in a negotiating position. High level covert operative commanders QUIT the military to face Congress to what??Keep the boots on the ground in more danger? NO to say that the BO administration is a sympathizer of theocratic politics--and doesn't represent the U.S. interest BO allowed limited of information that would cause him to lead, rather than follow. THAT is why da boz did not get involved in the Lybian assault HE LIED IN OMISSION---DISALLOWING FLUID TRUTHS TO COME FROM THE HOT AREAS. president bo is setting up a socialist framework that will be the end of the U.S. USC and all the blood shed to enforce it. BO MUST GO.

Maureen, you have proved nothing, have yet to come with anything other than your opinion. You are correct that I "dabble", but only on occasion; and never with any words directed at you. Oh, I am not a "screamer", you pretty much fit that description, given your name calling and such. I would like to say that ends any posts that I will direct at you in the future, however, I think you are the sort that wants the last word. So go ahead and take a few free shots...promise I will not respond, but know this: you have not showed me anything, nor impressed me with any facts/common sense arguments..so let her rip.."Sis"!

Oh, thanks for the last word. You refuse known facts. You are a screamer. Your decisions about comments are petty. You watch Beck, not me. I listen to candidates and the international appraisal of events in the U.S. You just like to argue to feel good about yourself. Fine--whatever it takes. Try not to strain while patting your own back for military service. I have a lot of family in service, and my late husband was Army SF EOD. Obviously, he would not have called you out on your petty, screaming affront on the truths that are all around us. He was much nicer than am I. I do not care if you ever respond to my posts--but you are a small mind in a dangerous world. Glad you are limited to online foolishness. love, maureen

Ryan stupid? I don't think it was Ryan who graduated dead last in his college class like a certain buffoon VP.

ummm... Mary? If I'm not wrong, our sitting president had just about a year in the US Senate before running for president. And that doesn't count the time he spent 'unoficcially' on the campaign trail.
Did you 'choose experience' in the presidental campaign?

Romney killed a woman with cancer. Romney wants dirty air. Romney wants to push Grandma off the cliff. Now it's Romney's fault for the Libyan Embassy scandal. Well gotta give credit to Team Obama, at least they're not blaming the Libyan Embassy bombing on Bush!!

THERE IS NO SCANDAL! Scott, do you even know what "the fog of war" is? Obama isn't trying to cover up anything. If his administration were, why would they have ever corrected the original statement?

Fog of war? I thought it was the fog of YouTube.

@Scott Simon - could you please tell us what planet you are visiting from. You are confusing the humans with the similarity of the names of locations in your statements, to actual locations on this planet.

THERE WAS NO ATTACK OR BOMBING OF THE LIBYAN EMBASSY SCOTT. The attacks, using RPG, diesel fuel and automatic weapons was on the CONSULATE compound in Benghazi - hundreds of miles away from the Embassy. You can't even get your story straight long enough to tell a lie.

And Romney wrote and released a statement about the attacks and the Administrations response, BEFORE we even knew that the Ambassador was killed.

No one can seriously say that such a move, when the events were still unfolding, could be for anything by political gain.

Earl, bo is a liar. of course he is going to build in plausible deniability.....which means he is a liar. BO is a LIFE LONG LIAR, with the same charisma as Jim Jones who instructed everyone to poison their children then themselves...Those not complying were killed anyway at the hands of "believers..." Parallels in studying ANYTHING is a view of acuity--and an estimation of future use of the cult mentality. BO is a cult--not a president. If i am wrong, YOU TELL EVERY DEAD SOLDIER AND THEIR FAMILIES---HOW LIVES HAVE BEEN FOR NAUGHT....don't want to be there when you do.

Maureen, repeating fringe political nonsense with random CAPITALIZATION, no backing facts, terrible grammar, and a heavy dose of non sequiturs is not doing you any favors. Go back to Glenn Beck TV -- I hear Obama is the NEW HITLER OMG!!! And, I heard he wants to take away all your guns. YOUR GUNS!!!

It is sad the GOP's only hope is to play up this attack as they are. Blood politics at it's worst. Dumbarse Ryan claimimg the Mideast is uraveling because of Obama is
unpatriotic when it has been this way for decades...and centuries. Do you teabaggers really want to keep score about terrorism and mideast mayhem.(9_11, Iraq war)

Earl, I believe you diagnosed Maureen correctly, she wrote quite a bit, but made no tangible points. Too much blaze tv? Too much happy hour? Oh, well , maybe we will never know!

I believe, Earl you are something of an expert on 'fog'. But then bo is your guy, so you at least are consistent.

Maureen , there you go again, talking loud.. Sayin' nothing! There is no "debate", you push the scare tactic agenda! You set a high opinion of your "debating" skill? You just went from pathetic to delusional! But thanks for cheap entertainment ! Must move on ...important socialist issues to attend to, good day!

Well, I said it and your last post proved it : checkmate. Let me orient you: you're responding on the wrong post. Re Glenn Beck and all the screamers (like yourself), i actually do not listen to them. But i listen to the candidates and do background work--which apparently you do not. I have facts and you believe they are 'scare tactics." Now THAT is delusional thinking. You seem to dabble in words that you really don't understand to improve your sense of self importance. I feel sorry for you, but don't regret checkmating your ridiculous posts. You have a nice day too.

I am a former military veteran and currently have many family and friends in military, they are not overwhelmingly for Romney. President Obama is not the dolt you make him out to be. I doubt you have all of the information about the inner workings of the intelligence and military operations that go on every day. Ryan was clueless on most of the military q&a. I do not consider President Obama a clown. He has had more meetings than you give him credit for. Vote for Romney if you want, but do not do it based upon the lies of Romney/Ryan. I have made many mistakes in my life, however, serving in the military & voting for President Obama were not 2 of them.

JP, I certainly hope you don't think the military is allowed to endorse a presidential candidate. That is explicitly forbidden in the U.S. Constitution. I'm sorry you feel you made a mistake voting for the current Commander-In-Chief. Keep in mind, though, JP, anything you hear about Daily Briefings and Presidential attendance thereof is hearsay, unless you have privy to the logbooks yourself. Consider the source when you hear hearsay like that, and specifically please try to be critical of whether the source that told you the "US president… Doesn't even attend daily briefing with his security team" might have an agenda.

You are addressing two posters GWE and EH---both of whom have a mutual admiration society going on. Oh, they wave their flags--but both seem clueless about the socialistic realities of bo. "Fog" is the most referenced word of one of these posters. They both have it. BO has to go.

I see Maureen is still talking loud..and saying nothing. The "fog" is the hot air from her gibberish causing condensation. Scare tactics do not work on me. I do not need Beck & others like him to tell me what the problems are (most are from folks like you acting out the agenda).

lol gwe, you and eh are a couple of washer-women and debate like sissies. consider yourselves outed for your failed attempts to put me off. "You can't touch this." But please---be my guest and follow your washer-woman cat-fight nature! i personally enjoy a good, albeit fruitless girly mud-fight. Post away sis! :)

It's funny Maureen, you debate like an eight-year-old. Seriously. I'm trying to think of anything you have ever written that doesn't smack of childish name-calling. Just for starters, I happen to be a male (blatantly obvious to anyone familiar with English-language names, but I gather you don't get around much); you throw around adjectives like "socialistic" with no apparent regard for what they actually mean; and you make assumptions about people and subjects that frankly make you look ridiculous. Please just go back to watching Glenn Beck TV and leave the rest of us alone, thanks. You can come back when you actually have something to add to the public discourse.

Earl, what you think is irrelevant to me. You erroneously believe that if you think it, and say it, it is a fact. Doesn't work that way pal. You copped to voting for bo in 07. This tells me you do not listen. He told the country conflicting assortments of lies--but YOU voted for him. So now your position matters because you didn't listen 4 years ago, and are listening to the obvious now? Non-credible thinker, Earl. Unfortunately, non-credible. You are a funny sort. Anyway, have a good week. Glad you see the errors of your ways and will vote for a Govt. of laws, vs. a Govt. by fiat. love, maureen

Most of America had trouble sleeping last night knowing this buffoon is one heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

If you review the debate from a neutral political point of view. Viewed strictly for debating skills Ryan wins because he did not act like a 5 year during the debate, interrupting, laughing and grinning like some kind of idiot. How old is Joe Biden?

Like North County? Would any Democrats actually show up in public?

Oh, ok...so it's the venue organizers fault now...let me change my game card. Can't play the game if you don't know the kaleidoscopic litany of whom to blame. thanks for your correction.

H - the entire Ryan/Romney "5-point plan" is an unworkable joke - how do you cut taxes more on the uber-wealthy and increase defense spending substantially? We've done it already and helped land us in the Great Recession. Maybe not an outright lie - but intellectually dishonest and mathematically incorrect.

He claims to oppose the stimulus, yet asked for stimulus money (kudos to Biden for pointing this out).

His convention speech- he blamed Obama for closure of GM plant in his hometown, when that plant had effectively closed during the Bush administration

Lambasts Obama for "destroying medicare" with $700billion projected reduction in growth of medicare - when the infamous Ryan budget includes the same reduction.

Under the Ryan Romney tax plan, Mitt's tax rate would go even lower - to almost 1%.

He has not run a sub-3 hour marathon, as previously claimed. lol.

With Akin, he co-sponsored the ridiculous failed anti-abortion bill in which states could outlaw abortion even in cases of rape & incest. And could outlaw invitro fertilization.

He's just a politician, and has been one almost his whole adult life. He has latched onto the Koch Brother funded Tea Party, as his ticket to fame.

There were several, mostly relating to medicare and taking things that - here are two good websites for fact checking both sides: www.factcheck.org, and www.politifact.com.

Ryan asked for federal help as he championed cuts.

http://nbcpolitics.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/10/12/14394811-ryan-asked-for-federal-help-as-he-championed-cuts?lite

H, you are confusing techno-SPIN and calling it lying. The bottom line is that BO does not follow--yet outwardly DISDAINS the USC, and Romney does NOT. He had an entirely free hand for the first two years, and doubled our debt to non--American states. in 4 years, that number has quadrupled. And for all the ash bellowing smoke he blows, the BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS PUTS OUR UNEMPLOYMENT AT 14.2%. This is because anyone who works part time at anything---"in employed." The actual numbers are devastating to our people, and BO could care less. He is addicted to printing money like he is addicted to smoking cigarettes: HE CANNOT STOP EITHER--- and in truth, i think he's crazy. but that's jmo. love, maureen

Maureen, here's a short economics lesson. In an economy like ours, when credit access is frozen - i.e. when businesses suddenly are unable to access short term credit to maintain cash flow as in '08-'11 - the majority of businesses put off investment in hiring, facilities, innovation, etc. Very profitable businesses also hold on to their cash reserves - they put off hiring, improvements, innovation. It is a vicious circle of job-non-creation and growing unemployment in the private sector.

When a recession takes hold and the private sector stops doing its job, it is extremely important for the federal government to use its taxing power to do everything it can to both increase demand for goods and services and to improve credit terms for short term borrowers. Policy wise, this means lower interest rates from the Fed - a deterrent to cash hoarding as well a reduction in borrowing costs. And it also means stimulus spending on any projects the government can reasonably influence - infrastructure projects, schools, technology investment, resource management, etc. In recessions/depressions, it is far more important for the government to pump cash into the economy via these means than it is to maintain a balanced budget, as the federal gov is one of the few entities with the spending power to either kickstart the economy or keep it from collapsing. The increase in the debt is a direct reflection of how bad it got. But if you'd prefer a depression over debt, whatever.

Four years of trillion dollar debts under Obama with no end in sight. Obama spends billions on "welfare queens" and worthless bureaucratic czars who line their own pockets with our taxpayer dollars. Throw the bum and his clown of a running mate out of office before he totally bankrupts this country and we end up like Greece.

Maureen, you would be wise to read carefully what The Missourian just wrote. That is, if you are not averse to learning. If you want to learn more, Google "Keynesian Economics". You can actually learn how the economy works, and what the government's function is in keeping it going.

Neat stuff!

"Four years of trillion dollar debts under Obama with no end in sight. Obama spends billions on "welfare queens" and worthless bureaucratic czars who line their own pockets with our taxpayer dollars."

This from the hypocrite who wants to divert millions in taxes to private developers via TIF. You're funny.

Mike K, pointing to one piece of legislation Obama passed that expands welfare would have helped make your point. Oh, I'm sorry, but you can't, BECAUSE THERE ARE NONE! That's right, Obama has done absolutely NOTHING to expand welfare. If I am wrong, and you can point to it, I will eat these words. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Your thinly veiled racist rants have no place in a civilized discourse such as this forum.

C&P the hyperlink, read it and weep, not about the economy, but our democracy.
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C&P the hyperlink to your browsers and get a clue, MO. and Earl.
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Mychal Massie? Who cares what he spews?

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2012/massieobama.html

Maureen, until you learn something about economics and what a credible source is, learn to shut up.

Missourian--"oh, girl---NO! YOU SHUT UP" lol. :) This board is over. But I liked Gary best of all. He had tenacity, and even when he said he would quit----he never quit. He had stamina in his position. You just layed down and died...really---. thin skin and inability to adapt and over come ---well--that would be you. Better luck as your alias is now a akin to a neon restaurant sign: ' we do our best, but can't seem to handle the roach problem...sure you really want to stop here?' SO MO, that would be "No." so long! :)

"Biden was rude?" Ryan & his cohorts have been rude for a long time! It is more than difference of opinion or interpretation of facts. "Clown"..how original, differential, or whatever you wish to call it..Romney/Ryan got a dose of their own medicine and did not like it.

OK Gary, your an exception--for calling him a lair, YOU are a lair. :-)

Thank you Jim, sometimes I come out of my "lair" to comment on a "liar". Thanks for making me the exception (you would not be the first).

What is a "lair"? Isn't that where lions sleep.
If I am wrong I apologize, don't want to be a considered a LIAR.

darn spell check! YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. :-)

2008/Great Recession is proof that Ryan/Romney's boring old trickle-down economic theories do not work.

Agreed that Ryan demonstrated a grade school petulance in his failed attempt to explain these theories. I was expecting much more from Ryan, with the tea party holding Ryan up as this economic budgetary hero. I thought there would be at least some substance to match the rhetoric, yet there is none.

I do wish Biden would have stifled at that part where the moderator asked Ryan for details on his budget schemes, because it would have been even more obvious that Ryan does not have any workable ideas and details on cuts.

It cracked me up when Ryan would roll out his syrupy rehearsed compliments of Romney. Character, experience (experience at inheriting money and exporting jobs) , generousity (yeah he's generous to Mormon financial empire/patronage system). Haha, you have to love these politicians.

You are both correct, but consequently will not gain any popularity on this site.

JP - it's not hard to research tried and failed economic policy (or at least the part of the policy we know about).. However, I did some more thorough "research" and came up with this:

Romney/Ryan economic plan: Five reasons it's a disaster for America
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Robert-Reich/2012/0821/Romney-Ryan-economic-plan-Five-reasons-it-s-a-disaster-for-America
"Ryan would take from lower-income Americans and give to the rich – who already have the biggest share of America’s total income and wealth in almost a century. His plan would raise taxes on families earning between 30 and 40 thousand dollars by almost $500 a year, and slash programs like Medicare, food stamps, and children’s health What would Ryan do with these savings? Reduce taxes on millionaires by an average of over $500,000 a year."

....I guess, I was supposed to look at townhall, blaze, and breitbart?

JP..Thanks for pointing out "former" and "veteran", I realized it after I sent it, I screwed up> Total disregard??Capital letters do not make your statements true. When you pull scriptures and want to use them as a hammer, make sure you do not randomly choose ones that fit your CURRENT argument. Maybe Biden should not have laughed at the ignorance of Ryan? When did you start working for the CIA and have an inside track to all the goings on? If you are a Terorist Expert, then I apologize. If not, you are just one of the posters entitled to your few lines on this site: nothing more , nothing less, the same as the rest of us.

I have heard of the WARN ACT, but do not accept Fox News & Krauthammers interpretation of it. It is not determined where the cuts would be made. They want "blanket" notices sent out (part of the scare tactics), which do not follow the guidelines of the Act. Fiscal Cliff could have been avoided, but Grover & GOP wanted to hang on to Bush Tax Cuts. Put blame where it belongs. It is you prerogative to not like President Obama, but have a better reason than this !

I do not know if I am liberal or not. Maybe I can think for myself? I do not have time for blaze tv, or Glen, Rush, Ann, or Sarah! Sorry.

Ha, yeah during the debate I was thinking, "Grandpa Munster on my left, Eddie on my right".

Not at all mike. You have a very vivid imagination! He looked and acted the elder statesman that he is. Are you by chance related to Maureen?

It was already dubbed as Eddie Munster vs the Mummy. And the Mummy whooped Eddie Munster's arse. Eddie tried to explain the magic of trickle down economics, but that magic does not work. It just causes recession.

Pres. on Red Bull beats giving the keys to the MunsterMobile to Eddie any day, FYI.

Gary, you changed back and forth from a second person to a first person referral. So I understand you want me to know i have offended your position. Point taken. What has me bothered is the amount of blood shed over 200 years to bring us the democracy that bo is undoing--right in the faces of people who actually believe him. So as you say, i will take the bubble in my head, and slither back under the rock from which i came (kind of theatrical, but transmission complete). I un-dent your manly dignity in this statement. Thanks for your military service. If bo is re-elected, please remember what and who he is dissing. love, maureen

That's a political ad, with nothing to read.

Thanks for pointing out that you get your "research" straight from politcal ads. You put yourself in contention for the prize of biggest moron in the USA (or moran, if you prefer http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/0/0/6/6/0/9/pic-15637291397.jpeg.)

With the Tea party around, you have a heck of a lot of competition.

Not nearly as despondent as you'll be November 7th, when faced with four more years of a black president, you old racist. Seriously... have anything substantive or are these drive-by posts the best you can do with your massive intellect?

Mike, you think I'm an idiot? You think I don't know what "welfare queen" really means? It is a racist term and you brought it up (not me).

Your task was to find some facts, any facts, that back up your silly claim that Obama has expanded welfare. So far, you have failed. Seriously Mike, ONE SINGLE FACT!

I said I'll wait… But I'm beginning to think… You got nothin'…

I'm not "accusing" you of anything, mikey. I refer to you as the "old racist" because:
A) you're really old
B) you're a big flaming racist (empirically speaking)

You've graced us with your bigotry many times. My favorite is when you gave everyone a lesson on the intelligence quotient rating of various races, using President Obama as an example. Apparently, the Patch editors are nervous when I quote that bit of stupidity from October 1st so I'll refrain from posting it again. Makes me wonder what your fellow Republicans here think of you.

I think it's important for people to be reminded of what you are. You've yet to contribute anything close to salient information or cogent opinion to any topic you've participated in, and now it appears your spell checker has gone on the fritz.

I look forward to witnessing your impotent rage November 6th as "the Kenyan" gives his victory speech. :)

JP - wasn't speaking to you, don't know what this has to do with you. I WILL NOT stop calling people on their racism when that is what they've brought to the table - so get over it and move on.

For the record, I was not the one that started all this, one anonymous individual "mike k" insisted on bringing a racial/gender based epithet into the conversation. Please redirect your rage at that anonymous individual, NOT ME!

JP, what does any of this have to do with the topic? Or are we just conveniently ignoring that now?

JP - projecting your own demons onto others?

Never been on "meds" myself, but I have enough empathy not to make light of those who genuinely do need them ... in fact I have nothing but respect for those individuals able to effectively deal with mental illness.

That's not racist (though your intepretation of it is, no doubt).

This was racist: (please Patch editors... he's trying to revise what he stated)

From the keyboard of mike k on Oct. 1st:
"Frankly hispanics and blacks are not as smart as whites and asians. Sure there are exceptions like Obama who we must remember is half white but overall as the United States becomes more brown we will be viewed as dumber and dumber, but on the plus side really good in soccer and basketball."

So what is your interpretation of the facts that were published in the 10/12/12 edition of USA Today? Be honest now.

Right after you tell me your interpretation of the facts that were published in the Boonesville Gazette on 5/17/11.

You're a cartoon.

Yeah, because your mad basketball skillz will forestall mortality. Good theory doofus.

I could have predicted that would be your response - tucking your tail and running back to momma. You mean you can't take a 63 year old man in basketball? Man you are pathetic.

Tucking my tail? Old guy wants to meet in the park for one on one? You sound desperate for intimate male contact, mikey. What next, you going to proposition me with a private wrestling match?

I don't judge. But you'll be much happier coming out.

I like it! Helps identify him more easily. mike kkk it is...

Caffeinated----don't be bothered by the 'good ole boy' thing coming your way. You and I are on totally different sides of issues, but your posts are colourful opinions. Not all, but some of the men are 'knuckle draggers' and you have to let them foam at the mouth, while not yourself contracting their rabid inability to dialog, debate, use metaphore, and all the other things that come with the facts/opinion mixture of this board. Blow them off, and don't let them bully you. Call them out on it. Shows a particular mentality, and it's such a worthless one. JUST KEEP POSTIN'!! :)

Bothered?! No way... mike k is my favorite old white guy. Basically, his world is slipping away and his limited ability to comprehend his perceived diminished standing yields a bevy of psychological pathology. He clearly has self-esteem issues and a need for acknowledgement (he claims to live in villa, is a millionaire, races his Corvette on weekends, and apparently beat me at basketball to name a few of his claims). This informs his limited world-view. He's not alone, but the beautiful part is he's increasingly marginalized.

I don't pretend to have the moral high ground. His cognitive dissonance is delicious. My interest here is purely entertainment, and he is as entertaining as it gets. I do think he serves a valuable purpose, though. The more he spews out his psyche to the world the better. He's what's under the rock when you turn it over.