Ballwin Board of Aldermen Hold TIF Public Hearing

Among the items to be discussed at tonight’s aldermen meeting, the board will hold a public hearing on the Old Towne TIF and address a Transportation Development District agreement for the Schnucks on at the corner of Kehrs Mill and Clarkson Roads.

The Ballwin Board of Aldermen will hold its monthly summer meeting at 7 p.m. tonight with a lengthy agenda.

One of the first items is a public hearing regarding the performance of the Town Center redevelopment plan Tax Increment Finance (TIF)  which was created pursuant to the Real Property Tax Increment Allocation Redevelopment Act.

The board will also read a bill that provides a license agreement for the “construction, access, and maintenance of the landscape feature, pedestrian access, and some of the sidewalks for the Schnucks development at the corner of Kehrs Mill and Clarkson.”

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In addition, the board will address a couple Special Use Exemptions for area businesses and City Attorney Robert C. Jones will provide an update on the status of all pending legal issues.

You can find the full Board of Aldermen agenda here.

If you can’t attend tonight’s meeting, what would you like to know from it? What do you think is the most pressing issue happening in Ballwin?

David July 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM
I'm sure the residents around the new store will be thrilled, how about reducing their property taxes as a good will gesture. The new store ruined their property values.
Michael Rhodes July 17, 2012 at 12:37 AM
The current property tax rate in Ballwin is 0%.
Ron Markland July 17, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Yes it is currently set as zero. And every year it is again decided if that rate will continue. The reason it was set at zero is that it was rePlaced by the gross utilities tax.
David July 18, 2012 at 12:04 AM
St.louis County Taxes if you really want a debate......I just moved out of Ballwin last year so sell that bill of goods elsewhere. Let the City of Ballwin eat the County property taxes. Can you understand where this is going or maybe a map will help you . Bottom line it ruined the property values for the nearby homes. FACT
Michael Rhodes July 18, 2012 at 02:38 AM
Are you responding to me or Mr. Markland. You state property values were ruined. What data are you using to support that fact? I would be interested in how much the values decreased.
David July 18, 2012 at 08:02 PM
Both, Would you buy a house right next to a schnucks with all the traffic and car traffic, crime, ect.... if the identical house at the same price was in a quiet beautiful subdivision 1 mile away? We know the answer..... Look at the major road work on baxter south of clarkson, The people have for sale signs in their yard and these people had half their yard bulldozed for a new road in their front yard......pretty cool huh? If progress must continue, that is fine. Government should buy all those affected out. Those homes will never sell unless they are sold on the cheap.
Michael Rhodes July 18, 2012 at 08:23 PM
How can they be the same price if the values have been depressed so much? Wouldn't the house a mile away cost more?
David July 18, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Michael, that was my point , this board seems to want people to believe this has'nt hurt property values. Everyone would take the house in a peaceful neighborhood if the homes were priced the same. To what dollar amout has it hurt it? That cannot be answered here as I have better things to do than wait and check the sales comps in the coming year. Only a fool would say that these houses in the direct area of this new Schnucks will not be hurt with this Store as a neighbor. Do you think any of these home owners would of ever bought these houses if they knew this would be their new neighbor? I feel for these home owners, and hope they bring litigation against the City. This " was not " commercial property and Ballwin just wants the tax revenue at the neighborhoods expense. That is why it was rezoned. Homeowners were throwing a fit. This is something you'll not be able to forget Michael, I'll bet if you knock on a nearby door of a nearby home owner and ask to buy their house at FULL value before Schnucks moved in..... The home owner would be happy to pack and move overnight. You're looking the fool to want people to buy this line of BS
Michael Rhodes July 18, 2012 at 11:16 PM
If you have identical homes for the same price how has the Schnucks hurt the values? I am not understanding your arguement. If you had said the home by the development was selling for 20% less it would make sense. I did ask you earlier to provide the data to support your fact that property values have been ruined. Now you say you don't have time to check. How do you know the values decreased that you can state it was a fact?
David July 19, 2012 at 02:15 AM
So after 12 months go's by and the Real Estate comps do show 20-25% or XXXX decrease in value, are you saying "Michael Rhodes" that the City should compensate these people? That sounds exactly like what you said if you'd care to reread your earlier post. The store just got built and all the construction finishing up. This will impact the values in a negative way. I know real estate and business very well. I'm not on here to stir the pot or get nasty with anyone but this will hurt the little guy. If this is no "big deal" just do the right thing and take care of the residents that this impacts financially. Ballwin will take the revenue from the Schnucks for the City's financial gain. Vote these clowns out of office at election time.
Michael Rhodes July 19, 2012 at 02:59 AM
"are you saying "Michael Rhodes" that the City should compensate these people? That sounds exactly like what you said if you'd care to reread your earlier post. " I do not see anywhere that I said owners should be compensated. What post are you getting that from? I have asked you repeatedly to provide the support for your statement that property values were ruined. You now seem to indicate that you have no such support and your "FACT" actually was an opinion that may or may not be or become factual. Generally when someone states something as factual they are able to support that claim. You are not able to do that at this time.
David July 21, 2012 at 03:22 AM
No data can be given yet because not enough time has went by..... It always decreases values and hurts values on homes. It never increases value. You can try to smoke screen this but it just doesnt work. I have a great idea Michael. Why don't you petition any large retailers to build next door to you? And if you're lucky you can have a Schnucks in your back yard. Cool huh? No more driving for the groceries just walk over the berm to the asphalt parking lot with the very bright lights and grab something fresh for dinner. And when you're ready to sell your house everyone will want to live next to the store so you'll get a premium on your house. LMFAO
Michael Rhodes July 21, 2012 at 01:14 PM
You are the one that stated it was fact that their property values were runined and now you state it is to early to have that data. Which is it? You also wrote that "are you saying "Michael Rhodes" that the City should compensate these people? That sounds exactly like what you said if you'd care to reread your earlier post." I asked you where you got this from as I do not recall stating that. You have failed to anwser that question as well. If you care to go back and reread my comments you will see that I have never made mention if I think values will go up, down, or stay the same. You have never asked me my opinion (please note that would be my opinion not stating a fact) on that.
David July 22, 2012 at 01:14 AM
I believe my point was made.


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