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Ellisville Council Approves Moratorium and Walmart Plat

The city council held a special meeting Friday to decide on the two items.

In a meeting that took place in less than half an hour Sept. 7, the Ellisville City Council approved two ordinances on a .

With little discussion involved, a temporary moratorium passed 5 to 1 (Councilmember Matt Pirrello was absent) for six months. Mayor Adam Paul was the only opposed.

The moratorium, the length of which can be changed at any time with council action, was originally suggested by City Attorney Paul Martin as a time allowance for a city-issued request for proposal (RFP).

City Planner Ada Hood said the RFP was in a draft stage at a , and that the issuance would be seeking a "high intensity, town center style" development in accordance with the city's comprehensive plan for the lot.

The final plat for a Walmart Sansone Group development, adjacent to the area zoned for the moratorium, was also approved 5 to 1, Paul again the opposed. The was approved Wednesday, the final plat being one of the remaining ordinances relative to the project needing a council O.K.  

The architectural review board, consisting of city council members, met with Sansone developers and architect Ryan McKay to continue a discussion regarding the material make-up of the Walmart structure. The board also met Wednesday following the regular council meeting and met again Friday to review changes in draft plans.

Board members had expressed primarily aesthetic concerns, but agreed to an incorporation of limestone and brick materials in the exterior building design. While finalizations are still being made to the plan, the board concluded further changes would be made under the discretion of city staff in collaboration with the architect and Sansone.

McKay said that once construction began, the Walmart would take from nine months to one year to complete.

mike k September 15, 2012 at 12:22 AM
We could then elect a Mayor who works to bring business into rather than keep businesses out of Ellisville.
Caffeinated September 15, 2012 at 12:55 AM
You seem misinformed, mike k. A majority of people cast their vote for Mayor Paul. Simple as that. He seems to be doing his job. I think a big part of the problem is people like Councilman Pirrello, who in my opinion isn't invested in the community. He isn't a property owner in Ellisville, nor are his offices located in Ellisville (they are in Manchester). Since he's the principal for his businesses, one would presume the decision lies with him, I think we should pose the question to Msr. Perrillo: Why aren't you even bringing your own businesses to Ellisville?
mike k September 15, 2012 at 01:46 AM
A majority of Ellisville residents did not cast their vote for Mayor Paul. He actually received only 44% of the votes cast in the last Ellisville election. By any definition it is the Mayor's job to lead the economic development of the city he represents. Again, why are the Mayors of the townships surrounding Ellisville so successful in attracting new business to their cities whereas our Mayor is a complete fail in this regard? It's really too bad for the citizens of Ellisville to have elected a young inexperienced individual who is clearly in over his head when it comes to leading a city with 10,000 plus residents.
Caffeinated September 15, 2012 at 01:54 AM
A majority of Ellisville residents did not vote. Mayor Paul won the plurality of those who voted. Wildwood has very good city planning, but they are having capacity issues as well. All local cities are, and your characterization is incorrect. The mayor of Ellisville is now effectively just another council member. That is a fact. I think our problems can be laid on one person primarily: Councilman Pirrello. A non-property owner who chooses to conduct his businesses in another municipality. As a failed mayor, he oversaw one of the greatest exoduses of businesses Ellisville has ever seen.
Jimmy C September 15, 2012 at 02:03 AM
mike k, they had 4 candidates in the election and mayor Paul (who everyone loves) almost took home almost half of the votes. Yes, that is called a landslide. He beat two current alderman, even if you added them together as a new comer. Just drop it, our city has been through enough. He is an impressive young man and Ellisville is a great city. Your repetitive comments are getting old.
E. Schmidt September 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM
mike k fails to understand (or actually recognize) that a majority of Ellisville voters who participated in the election voted for an anti-TIF mayoral candidate. One of those two won with a decisive plurality. That was Adam Paul with 44% (?). mike k was obviously not a math or political science major. These are fairly simple concepts...plurality and decisive plurality. Others seem to have the same problem with electoral math. >>>I think our problems can be laid on one person primarily: Councilman Pirrello. A non-property owner who chooses to conduct his businesses in another municipality. As a failed mayor, he oversaw one of the greatest exoduses of businesses Ellisville has ever seen.<<< We should start a list...or just go to city hall and ask for the list of business licenses and commercial occupancy permits abandoned during his tenure as mayor from 2006-2012. That will be some interesting math as well.
mike k September 15, 2012 at 06:15 PM
Majority - a subset of a set consisting of more than half of the set's elements. Paul did not receive a majority of the votes cast for Mayor. Plurality is receiving the most votes in a multiple contested race which is what Paul did. Regarding college degrees, what is your in? I have a Chemical Engineering Degree from Missouri University of Science & Technology (formerly Univ. of Missouri at Rolla) and a Masters in Business Administration from Washington University St. Louis. Back to the topic at hand, name just one positive thing Mayor Paul has accomplished for the advancement of the city of Ellisville. He is a do nothing Mayor. He should resign and leave the business of running the city to the experts.
Caffeinated September 15, 2012 at 06:38 PM
A majority is a subset of a set consisting of more than half of the set's elements. This can be compared to a plurality, which is a subset larger than any other subset considered; i.e. a plurality is not necessarily a majority as the largest subset considered may consist of less than half the set's elements. In British English, majority and plurality are often used as synonyms, and the term majority is also alternatively used to refer to the winning margin, i.e. the number of votes separating the first-place finisher from the second-place finisher. In this case, the first and second-place finishers were anti-TIF.
Caffeinated September 15, 2012 at 06:41 PM
mike k - How do you feel about the fact that Perrillo isn't an Ellisville homeowner, doesn't pay real estate taxes in Ellisville, and chooses to conduct his business in another municipality? How do you feel about all the businesses lost under his tenure as mayor?
mike k September 15, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Caffeinated, I respect you as having demonstrated that you are capable of having an intelligent discussion. Sure, I would prefer that Councilman Perrillo was a property owner in Ellisville, although I assume, if the facts are correct that he is living with a girl friend, she is paying property taxes. With regard to businesses in Ellisville closing during Pirrello's tenure as Mayor, I view that as a free enterprise issue that was beyond his control. Likewise although Best Buy closed their Ellisville store under Mayor Paul's tenue, I have not criticized him for that event. I am however critical that Mayor Paul continues to do nothing to attract new businesses to Ellisville. We might as well replace him with an empty chair. Whether you agree with bringing in Walmart or not, former Mayor Pirrello gets credit from me for working to bring new businesses to Ellisville.
E. Schmidt September 15, 2012 at 07:55 PM
mike k I have no idea who you are talking to, but I never said Adam Paul received a majority of votes. I said he got a decisive plurality of 44% I said the majority of voters who participated in the election preferred an anti-TIF candidate. You do realize there were two anti-TIF candidates ???...who combined garnered 72% of the vote???...thus the voters preferred an anti-TIF candidate. Understand now??? So, you have more degrees than a thermometer and you're a "millioniare" and a race car driver and you have a self-proclaimed IQ of 147 and you live in a villa and whatever... Reading comprehension is not your strong point and you may have some innumeracy issues. >>>He should resign and leave the business of running the city to the experts.<<< Leave the running of the city to the experts??? Which ones would those be?...The one's who failed to do a full economic impact study?...The ones who failed to require a demolition bond? The ones who have failed to estimate the full cost of this project to the city including additional police and court services and have ignored the evidence from other communities? You mean those experts? I don't think so.
Caffeinated September 15, 2012 at 10:41 PM
" I am however critical that Mayor Paul continues to do nothing to attract new businesses to Ellisville." No doubt you are critical, but you don't seem to have a factual basis for that criticism beyond leveling unsubstantiated charges of "tantrums." If you are sincere (which I doubt anyone believes), you should be livid at a council that plays like they are in a special club and actively works to obstruct the new mayor. Perhaps it would be useful to talk to Mayor Paul and have him explain what he's done. My understanding is that he answers his phone. I think I'm most disappointed in Michelle Murray. A lot of us voted for her thinking she would represent those of us in her district, but she seems to be a rubber-stamping member of Pirrello's clique now. Unfortunately we have a council that behaves as if it he is an interloper. I believe they're acting childish. Fortunately, their behavior is on public display and I doubt any of them can survive *any* election after the Walmart fiasco. Pirrello recognized this when confronted with a recall election. Speaking as someone who has been paying property taxes in Ellisville long before you, I look forward to watching Pirrello's political career evaporate. His involvement in government has resulted in a smaller commercial tax base and fewer residents.
mike k September 16, 2012 at 01:01 AM
Obstruct the new Mayor, that's a good one. It's the Mayor that is against everything the Council proposes. You would think after losing 6-1 on virtually every vote that comes before the Council he would look to compromise but he has just dug his heels in further. I can see why Michelle abandoned the Mayor after viewing his childish behavior meeting after meeting. I can understand if the council members view him as an interloper. Mayor Paul has been quoted that he only sees his current position as a stepping stone to bigger political ambitions. I've seen these kind come and go, looking only to enhance their resume in order to take that next big step. If he is still here by the end of his term, I'll buy you a steak dinner. Trust me, Elllisville can do a lot better than our current Mayor.
Ellisville Watchdog September 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Someone hopped-up on coffee posted, “Fortunately, their behavior is on public display and I doubt any of them can survive *any* election after the Walmart fiasco. Pirrello recognized this when confronted with a recall election. Speaking as someone who has been paying property taxes in Ellisville long before you, I look forward to watching Pirrello's political career evaporate.” Pirrello’s grand ambition of challenging Charlie Dooley for the position of St. Louis County Executive as the Republican Candidate is going up in smoke too. People of all political parties hate TIF. The only people who support it are the elected political toadies of the millionaires and billionaires who come whining for taxpayer hand out. It takes a minimum of Half a Million ! for a candidate to run that race. How would he ever raise that kind of money? TIF and eminent domain are now the third rail of municipal politics. Touch it and you die. (I can’t tell if this City Council got pushed onto the tracks or if they held hands and jumped together in a political suicide pact.) Just ask the former Mayor and City Council of Arnold who got shown the door in 2009. I doubt Pirrello could get elected as Ellisville dog catcher. Arf! Arf!
mike k September 16, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Spoken like a true democrat
Caffeinated September 16, 2012 at 04:00 PM
...says the RINO.
E. Schmidt September 16, 2012 at 05:45 PM
>>>It takes a minimum of Half a Million ! for a candidate to run that race. How would he ever raise that kind of money?<<< The question may be more like, "From whom would he [Pirrello] ever get that kind of money?" Hmmm... Arff, to you too.
Ellisville Watchdog September 17, 2012 at 12:39 PM
That mike k has millions. Maybe he could fund Pirrello's race against Charlie Dooley for County Exec.? mike k does seem to have a problem with Ellisville mayors having political ambition. He's not the best political padrone. I'm sure Pirrello could call in a few favors from some of his new best goombas. If County Exec. doesn't work out there is always the race for Dog Catcher. Arf! Arf!
mike k September 17, 2012 at 02:30 PM
Dog Catcher puts Watchdog out of his misery. Arf Arf!
E. Schmidt September 17, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Watchdog, If you think it is time for a change (and I sense that you do) just come by ellisvilleA9A@yahoo.com Bark it up, scratch at the door and introduce yourself.
mike k September 17, 2012 at 09:42 PM
In most city newsletters, the Mayor pens an article detailing the current status of the city and his plans for future growth. Not suprisingly in the Fall edition of the City of Ellisville Trailblazer, there is nary a mention of anything from the Mayor. Of course if he did write an article about his accomplishments, it would likely be a two sentence paragraph, or perhaps not even that long.
Caffeinated September 17, 2012 at 10:42 PM
yawn. I'm more interested in why Pirrello is missing meetings.
mike k September 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM
I suggest you drink some coffee to wake up, then pick up a phone and call him (314) 608 8586 since you are so interested
Caffeinated September 18, 2012 at 12:33 AM
Is that his cell number or the landline at his girlfriend's house?
mike k September 18, 2012 at 01:29 AM
Caffeinated, I withdraw my earlier statement "that you are capable of having an intelligent conversation."
Michael Rhodes September 18, 2012 at 01:45 AM
Caffeinated: It can not be to the girlfriend's house as that is located in Ellisville and the area code there is 636, not 314. A quick search shows it is a wireless number.
Caffeinated September 18, 2012 at 01:53 AM
That's not very nice, Mr. Kelly. Rather insulting.
Ellisville Watchdog September 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Pirrello’s missing meetings because he’s not feeling the love---there isn’t any. He’s pursuing his career as a Primerica investment advisor pending the demise of his political career? Nothing pays like fee-laden Multi Level Marketing schemes. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2010-04-01/wall_street/30092130_1_primerica-recruiter-mlm Arf! Arf!
Ellisville Resident Dist. One September 18, 2012 at 03:13 PM
I know, Pirello could sue his neighbors again!? That'll make him a few bucks. Sue the city, the neighbors, throw them out of their homes then gank them with inflated TIF sales taxes. Whata outstanding citizen! I thought he was an independent contractor remodeling homes for Wolffe Enterprises. Watch out for this truck coming down the road. He might sue you too!
Ellisville Watchdog September 19, 2012 at 05:39 PM
If you call Pirrello to ask why he is missing City Council meetings don’t discuss your financial situation. He may try to sell you some overpriced Primerica product. He’s gotta make sure his Upline gets a cut of the commission. Multi Level Marketing is hard on the Downline sellers. Google Primerica and any combination of scam—scheme--pyramid--ponzi Better yet, just Google—Crimerica Start reading the links. You’ll get the drift. The stories from former clients and sellers are sad and sadder. When new clients figure out they could have done better elsewhere, the charge backs kill what little profits a rep makes. Primerica, though technically not a pyramid or ponzi scheme (which are illegal) has a suspect sales and commission structure. Why all the related links to scam, scheme, pyramid and ponzi if not the case? This could be why some people think, “Our two sons won't care what it's worth (a “villa” in Ellisville?) since their inheritance will be a million $ each.” Is he worth more dead than alive due to an overpriced Primerica life insurance product he bought? If he didn’t fall for it, a lot of people have and then became sales agents and even refinanced they homes with Primerica, digging themselves in deeper. No tasty doggie bone at the end of that long dig. Beware. Arf! Arf!

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