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Ellisville Council Is 'Bush League,' Post-Dispatch Editorial Says

The newspaper wasn't complimentary to the actions of city officials involved in the move to suspend Mayor Adam Paul.

An editorial in Monday's edition of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch called Ellisville city council members "bush league" in their actions leading to the suspension of Mayor Adam Paul last week.

Council members voted 5-0 on Wednesday to suspend the mayor while it prepares to convene a sort of "evidentiary hearing" on March 20 to investigate the charges leveled against Paul.

The mayor was elected largely on an "anti-Walmart" platform and he has been outspoken in his opposition to the city's efforts to attract the department store to the corner of Clarkson and Manchester roads.

The charges that have been leveled against Paul include:

  • Discussing publicly details of a closed-session council discussion on personnel.
  • Trying to replace the city attorney without the council’s approval.
  • Ordering city employees to carry out tasks, in spite of the city charter prohibition on council members specifically managing city employees.
  • Drinking and swearing on the job.

The Post-Dispatch editorial says the charges amount to little more than "government gone wild" when compared to the hijinks, horse-trading, swearing and drinking that happen in the Missouri capital — or Washington DC, for that matter.

"This rush to judgment, this zero-to-impeachment-in-60 seconds attitude, is a symptom of what’s wrong with our political system. We have lost the ability to disagree," the newspaper wrote in its editorial. "Going to court and seeking impeachment? That’s bush league."

At least one reader agreed in a comment posted with the editorial. Chelsea Cameron wrote: "Thank you for this. This should be a wake up call to the city council of Ellisville how they are being regarded as a mockery of our legal system. I must wonder, is there any recourse the residents have against this city council? They are acting so far outside the lines that one can only wonder how much money Sansone and Wal-Mart have given these people!"

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robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 07:24 PM
Caffie, I had asked you not repeat my arguments, I already know them. I perfer National Review. Crony capitalism is like Soylyndra? You see, that is taking my forced paid tax dollars and giving it to a company, by the federal govenment.. I don't shop at Kmart so I don't pay the tax. The will of the people, hmmm? Ellisville had an electon, the mayor gets one vote, there are 7 on the board, a vote was taken 5-2 in favor. Subvert like Hugo Chavez (thank goodness he is dead). You mean we should'nt have elections? You see you must go back to Madison and his theory on "mobs." America does not have mob rule...we have checks and balances. The check in our situation is an election. Your side lost, your side tried to use the legal system to overturn that election, you lost that argument also. We have another election, you get to vote and have one vote. I do not know Mr Perrillo or the "gang." No I stick to priciples. I am a capitalist and as a capitalist, I support a private (private property See Locke and founders) company to build on an empty lot on the corner of Clarkson and Manchester. (It should never be used for housing, see gentrification). I believe in economic activity (see Adam Smith) and you should not determine where I can and can't shop. (highly conservative principle). You should really take my history course.
E. Schmidt March 06, 2013 at 07:41 PM
>>>I support a private (private property See Locke and founders) company to build on an empty lot <<< Should read: "I support extortion of private property using the Threat of Eminent Domain granted to millionaire developers by our local government." Fixed it.
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 08:05 PM
Hey, welcome Smidt are taking over Caffie? You up to the challange? No, I believe that I should be able to shop wherever I want and companies should be able to build on property (private, the city does not own the land). They (Walmart) made a pitch to the city (the only one) and it was accepted. See previous posts on the elections above ect...your side lost. I sense you have an issue with wealthy people, Schimdt. The corner is empty and looks like East Germany or Cuba. It is called development and economic activity. You do exercise that liberty right Schmidt? If you choose not to shop there, that is the magic hand (Adam Smith), you do not pay the % of sales tax that goes to build the project. It is very simple when brought down to the common donminator of low information voters or people that believe just because they live in an apartment complex (renters) they own the land, they don't. Maybe you can get a job at the Walmart. I must have missed the threats!
E. Schmidt March 06, 2013 at 08:06 PM
>>>to build on an empty lot on the corner of Clarkson and Manchester. (It should never be used for housing, see gentrification).<<< Should read: "I don't know the difference between a corner with empty buildings and the middle of the block with inhabited apartments. I don't get out much." >>>I believe in economic activity (see Adam Smith) and you should not determine where I can and can't shop. (highly conservative principle).<<< Should read: "I expect government to subsidize my addiction to cheap Chinese crap with taxpayer dollars which I believe is not money. I pretend to be a conservative when I am in fact a fascist crony capitalist." >>>You should really take my history course.<<< Should read: "You should listen to me because I say Locke, Madison and Adam Smith...who, if alive, would beat me about the head for the way I have convoluted their writings." Fixed it again.
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 08:30 PM
Schimtty, I teach history my good man, have been for a long time. As I explained to your buddy, Caffie, please do not copy my comments because I already know them. Ah, we are getting down to nitty gritty. You oppose the Walmart because they sell products from China. I don't care where the products are made, I only care that they are inexpensive (my economic interest not yours) and readily available. You should really read some of Adam Smith's ideas on free trade and Madison on pursuing economic interests (Federalist Paper #10) . Where did you learn your economics? Enligthen me would you? You see private property is the critical component of freedom. A group of people who do not own property may not make the decision as to what should be done with property that is owned by another. Yes, I am fascist, is that all you got? Your losing the argument. I can recomend some good books.
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 09:02 PM
Caffie and Schmitty, game, set, match.
Mike K March 06, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Robert Kerr: "A group of people who do not own property may not make the decision as to what should be done with property that is owned by another." So I take it that you are vehemently opposed to the use of Eminent Domain, no? As in Walmart and Sansone, in collusion with the CIty of Ellisville city council, acting in obvious and overwhelming contrariness to the voters that elected them, using Eminent Domain to TAKE the property of the Clarkchester owners, against their will. The Clarkchester property owners are *not* selling their property to Walmart. The City is TAKING it, by abuse of Eminent Domain. That is but one part of the outrage of the voters and citizens of Ellisville. So, do you believe what you say you do, or are you a hypocrite? If you truly believe what you wrote, then you should stand firmly against the Walmart/Sansone development of RPA2 on that basis. I accept your resignation.
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 10:17 PM
>>"I teach history my good man" You're clearly uneducated. Where do you teach history without a degree?
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Bobbie, Checkmate. Go Fish! Connect 4! Bananagram!
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Mikie, Please don't repeat my answers I already know what I have said. Please view your response....no property is being taken. The property owners are selling the property to another individual or group. Can you point to me where the property owners have stated that their property is being taken? I have not heard one peep from them..I only hear from people like you that do not own the property. I am not outraged. God, are you going to call me a hypocrite, like Caffie? Wow that is original. I am for business and economic activity. Go back to your bunker. Me thinks Mikie, Caffie and Smitty are the same, probably the Mayor.
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 10:36 PM
>>"Please don't repeat my answers I already know what I have said" They're called quotations. People use them to provide context.
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 10:42 PM
Caffie, Put down the energy drink. I already know what I have said. Context..is that so you can use someone else's intelligence? You funny....
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 10:49 PM
No. When presented with a morass of unintelligible garbage, such as your posts, it's helpful for those reading the reply to address the particular bits of misinformation you've posted directly.
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Oh by the way Caffie you can come to one of my classes at Wildwood...your more than welcome...check it out. Uneducated, thats rich!
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Yes, I know that things must be repeated to you just in case you forget.
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 10:57 PM
I'd love to... where do you teach? You actually teach history? Post-secondary?
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Oh, my... http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1506234 Is this you?
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Yes, I do. American and European history, International Relations and Politcal Science.
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 11:06 PM
Is that all you got?
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 11:09 PM
See... this is where a quote would work wonders. Do you mean this? http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1506234
E. Schmidt March 06, 2013 at 11:14 PM
kerr, If those were my ratings, I wouldn't be so quick to boast. Your students even note that you can't spell. http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1506234 >>>I would never take a class with this teacher again. It's Q&A straight from the book, only veering away from it to add his own political slant. The tests are open book because it's an online class, but they're evasive. It's also annoying that he constantly misspells words. There are better teachers out there.<<< and >>>Terrible. I was greatly looking forward to this class, but Kerr is a disappointment. He wastes an enormous amount of time blathering about his own political views, none of which have anything to do with what we are supposed to be learning. Completely unfocused and undisciplined.<<<
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 11:18 PM
Caffie, The above has nothing to do with the Walmart. The building will be built and you may stand out on the corner of Clarkson and Manchester and hold your sign proclaiming your support for the little the people.
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 11:20 PM
No it doesn't have anything to do with Walmart. We can agree on that. You're bloody awful.
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 11:37 PM
Caffie, Your arguments are boring. No substance or depth. You sound like a Brit? Bloody terrible? Not really, my classes are full as ever. Remember, we got rid of those people a long time ago.
Caffeinated March 06, 2013 at 11:39 PM
And you smell of elderberries. I feel sorry for those poor kids throwing their money away. Shame on you SLCC. This is what you're throwing out there?
robert kerr March 06, 2013 at 11:40 PM
You funny
robert kerr March 07, 2013 at 12:30 AM
Caffie, Elderberries, what the hell does that mean? Throw that money away, they were liberal.
Mike K March 07, 2013 at 03:07 AM
@RKerr: http://bit.ly/YABFzi And your mother was a hamster. WE WANT A SHRUBBERY!!!
robert kerr March 07, 2013 at 03:16 AM
Very nice Mikie... it's "I want a a shrubbery"....Monte Python Circus, John Cleves, .....British humor. Ha Ha! But the Walmart is coming, end of story.
mike k March 07, 2013 at 04:08 AM
At least Professor Kerr has a job. All E Schmidt does is sit at home and collect her welfare checks. Caffeinated and Mike K lurk in the shadows afraid to come out in the light to be exposed for the tools they are.

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