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Great Streets Initiative Equals Great Possibilities, Says Committee

Ellisville, Ballwin and Wildwood city representatives, along with West St. Louis County Chamber of Commerce and Missouri Department of Transportation managers are putting ideas into motion for Manchester Road corridor.

There's 40 percent more retail space than the market will support along Manchester Road within a declining economy, former Ellisville mayor Matt Pirrello told approximately 100 luncheon attendees at Wednesday's monthly meeting of the West St. Louis County Chamber of Commerce at . "There are too many other (shopping and service) alternatives, and we need to improve the access, management and safety of the entire Manchester corridor," he said.

The improvement plan was deemed the "Great Streets Initiative." Authorities have worked on the Manchester Road plan since 2009, but a website that reveals detailed schematics and timelines is about to be unveiled, said Pirrello, who nows serves as Ellisville councilmember of Ward 1.

Pirrello, along with other representatives of the cities of Ellisville, and Ballwin, are working with the chamber, Missouri Department of Transportation and East-West Gateway Council of Governments to execute the plan to revamp the overall setup and management of the area's major thoroughfare:  Manchester Road which turns into Missouri Route 100 as it reaches Wildwood.

The Great Streets Initiative stems from the interests of developing economic sustainability for the West St. Louis County-Manchester Road area while creating safe, interesting and memorable places for consumers. Pirrello on Wednesday said he was glad to communicate what all the plan "will bring to the area."

From speaking with business owners, city leaders and consumers, the Great Streets group know the main problems are considered to be:

  • Manchester roadway is not configured for multi-use options.
  • There aren't really "people places," or spots at which it is easy to stay, relax, enjoy and people watch.
  • There are an increasing number of accidents along this corridor.
  • The roadway lacks character.
  • It needs aesthetic upgrades.
  • The Manchester corridor has no identity and no revitalization plan driving its future.

Specifically, Pirrello told chamber meeting attendees there were too many vacant and underutilized buildings along the Manchester corridor. "It lacks biking access and we need business retention and recruitment plans."

He cited a pattern of businesses choosing or relocating to alternative shopping districts, such as the Chesterfield Valley, Manchester Highlands or Fenton's Gravois Bluffs.

Great Streets Initiative team members believe the new effort can accommodate more business uses in the area while increasing and improving traffic flow. They pledge to promote "pedestrian infusion." Pirrello said they also want to give the corridor an identity and create consistent design themes within each city incorporated into the long roadway.

Editor's Note: Return to Patch for a second article about tactical new steps planned for the Manchester corridor through the Great Streets Initiative.

mike k August 24, 2012 at 07:40 PM
As a senior citizen living in a gated community with 60 other senior citizens, we welcome Walmart to the Ellisville community. With the price of gas again climbing to all time highs and likely to go to $10 plus per gallon aka Europe, it is essential for seniors on a limited income to have local options for goods at low prices. Also I enjoyed the previous comment that Walmart contributed to the deaths in Joplin. Is there not a level that anti-Walmart activists will not sink to? I suppose not.
Tired August 24, 2012 at 07:44 PM
Thx Howie...And stop staring at my TUBE SOCK.
Howard Roark August 24, 2012 at 08:02 PM
You can buy your Depends four miles down the road in Manchester, grandpa. No need to divert tax money to a private company over the course of 23 years. Take a look at the intent of Great Streets Initiative. It's a really wonderful idea, but with dolts like Pirello guiding this it'll end up a boondoggle with different strip malls replacing the current strip malls.
mike k August 24, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Glad to see Howie finally figured out Pirello is not spelled Perillo. Those i's and e's look so much alike. You better get used to Pirello because he is our de facto Mayor.
E. Schmidt August 24, 2012 at 10:15 PM
>>>Also I enjoyed the previous comment that Walmart contributed to the deaths in Joplin. Is there not a level that anti-Walmart activists will not sink to? I suppose not.<<< mike k, Your really do make this too easy for me sometimes. I never said they died in a Walmart. They died in a building made of tilt-up-- it was a Home Depot. >>> The Joplin Home Depot and many of the company's other stores used a popular construction method called tilt-up wall that the Kansas City Star found can be deadly under certain conditions. The design is used in thousands of warehouses, stores and schools across the country, and some engineers think it has weak links that often fail — even in winds much less ferocious than those that hit Joplin on May 22….<<< Story here-- http://www.kansas.com/2011/06/27/1910068/store-design-is-vulnerable-to.html JOPLIN, Mo. — As the monster tornado bore down on them, Rusty Howard and his two small children sought refuge in a Home Depot store. But the young father, the children and four other people died when the roof came off and the walls came down, crushing them beneath a 100,000-pound concrete panel...<<< This proposed Walmart will be made out of the same tilt- up junk. Is there not a level to which proponents of a billion dollar welfare queen won't stoop? I suppose not. There is also a Walmart in Eureka just south of your "gated community." Get some spectacles down there. They may help you read better.
E. Schmidt August 24, 2012 at 10:34 PM
And while were on the issue of spelling...it's Pirrello... Drive south out of your gated community right off Old State Rd., then south on Hwy. 109 and then west on 5th St. to find Walmart in Eureka. It's about four miles away. If you can't afford the Optician located there, they have those magnifying glasses. They will help with reading, but not reading comprehension, grammar or spelling. Also, it is odd that you spend so much time positng on Ellisville issues since your gated community off Old State Rd. isn't even in Ellisville. But, since you snipe from the shadows while threatening nuisance law suits, I might have the wrong mike k in the wrong location...though I doubt it.
Howard Roark August 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM
His correction wasn't even correct?! LOL
E. Schmidt August 24, 2012 at 10:58 PM
We all make spelling mistakes, typos, grammar gaffes etc.. Most of us take it in stride. But, when someone who claims to be a senior AND live in a gated community in Ellisville AND claims he needs to save pennies on tube socks AND has an IQ of 147 AND plays chess AND drives a race car AND is willing to displace seniors who need affordable housing to save those pennies AND give a taxpayer subsidy to a billion dollar welfare queen...WHEW...suddenly gets all imperious and snotty about spelling, well there's only so much I can take. Howard, if you think it is time for a change at City Hall, come on by ellisvilleA9A@yahoo.com and introduce yourself.
Mike K August 25, 2012 at 05:09 AM
What does Walmart have that the Kmart across the street and has been there for years WITHOUT a TIF? That is directed to the gentleman who has been apparently unable to obtain depends until the Walmart is built. Or discover the joy of UPS or FedEx or big bad government job-killers like the US Postal Service that delivers a letter for 44¢ anywhere in the US six days a week and packages under 2 lbs for cheaper than their competition. How many new Walmart employees are going to be added to our Medicare/Medicaid and food stamps because they won't hire full time with benefits, only part time? How is that for getting the government, er, Ellisville taxpayers to pick up the tab for the healthcare they won't provide to employees? Or subsidize bus service so Walmart can bus in their tax-break generating poor, disabled, handicapped employees from elsewhere if Ellisville doesn't have enough folks who are desperate enough to settle for a part-time job. Sounds like mike k is itchin' to be first in the greeter cattle calls. Remember kids, many will enter, few will win.
E. Schmidt August 25, 2012 at 12:45 PM
You asked, >>>What does Walmart have that the Kmart across the street and has been there for years WITHOUT a TIF? That is directed to the gentleman who has been apparently unable to obtain depends until the Walmart is built.<<< I honestly don't know...except K Mart by and large doesn't stoop to the lowest "law suitable" employment practices so it is constantly fighting class action suits by employees who were forced to work off the clock like Walmart...now THAT'S a Great American company, eh? Ellisville picked a real winner to anchor its' Great Streets Initiative, no? And your asking this of lower case (and lower class) mike k ?--someone who complained that his "gated community" wasn't door-knocked during the District 2 opinion survey of all households where 71% stated they opposed the Walmart TIF, AND then threatened to call the police on us and or sue us for soliciting in his "gated community" even though it is considered "protected political speech" under the First Amendment and no one was asking for money or selling anything AND whose "gated community' isn't even in Ellisvile (assuming I am correct about his identity and location.) Come to the City Council meeting on Wednesday, Sept. 5th and ask, "Why the council is voting for a conditional use permit for a TIF project that no one wants?" Ask Michelle Murray, "Why did you flip your vote from a consistent "No" on this project to a sudden "Yes" at the last meeting?" I'd be happy to have you there.
mike k August 25, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Kerryton Place was annexed to Ellisville in 2009. For Seniors on a fixed income gas and groceries are a major expense. Walmart brings options that KMart fails to provide. Regarding canvassing in our community, you may wish to familiarize yourself with section 630.120:General Prohibitions of the Ellisville code.
mike k August 25, 2012 at 05:57 PM
On a fixed income, many Seniors cannot afford to shop at Dierbergs or Schnucks. KMart, Target and yes Walmart all sell billions of dollars of goods made in China each year. Creve Coeur sells mainly Canon cameras, guess where they are manufactured....Japan. Lukas Liquors sell product from Russia, Mexico, Puerto Rico, Canada....well you get the idea. Give the customer what they want at the best price. The strong survive and the weak go out of business, it's call free enterprise.
Howard Roark August 25, 2012 at 06:02 PM
"...it's call free enterprise." You're funny. It's not free enterprise when tax dollars are diverted to developers to subsidize businesses. Communist.
mike k August 25, 2012 at 07:26 PM
So you're calling President Obama a communist for giving those bailouts to GM, Chrysler, AIG, Bank of America, etc? Just checking.
E. Schmidt August 25, 2012 at 08:15 PM
>>>The strong survive and the weak go out of business, it's call free enterprise." <<< It's billion dollar corporations and million dollar developers feigning poverty and come begging for taxpayers subsidies and he calls it "free enterprise." Howard, Calling him a Communist is an insult to communists everywhere. He's a corporate fascist.
mike k August 25, 2012 at 10:19 PM
It sure sounds like you are threatening our council members. You're not an NRA member, are you?
E. Schmidt August 25, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Howard, And speaking of the vacant car dealerships, one of them is up for sale now after having been tied up in court. The City of Ellisville now wants a moratorium on any development of the two largest eyesore vacant car dealerships. In other words, the City Council is willing to tear-down three small business and 100 units of affordable housing and give millions of dollars in TIF to make it happen...for Walmart and Sansone...but now that someone is interested in buying one of the biggest vacant car dealerships to open a business, the city wants a moratorium on development of those properties. Please come the the Planning and Zoning Special Meeting and Public Hearing Wednesday, August 29th and ask why the City of Ellisville is yet again meddling in the Free Market...and preventing the real eye-sores along Manchester Rd. from being developed. August 29, 2012 Planning and Zoning Commission 7:00 P.M. SPECIAL MEETING [See item below.] V. Public Hearings A. Petition #12-08-01: City initiated legislation declaring an immediate temporary moratorium and cessation upon the consideration and final approval of matters relative to development of RPA-2 at the southwest corner of Manchester and Kiefer Creek Roads until such time the city issues a request for proposals for said area or the moratorium is rescinded by the Council.
Howard Roark August 25, 2012 at 10:26 PM
Threatening? Certainly not! These council members will get voted out, termed out, or A9A'd out. But they still will have to live with the pall of this over them in the eyes of their neighbors... You want to take away my NRA membership, too mikey?
mike k August 25, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Just because one of the dealerships is up for sale, that doesn't mean they have a buyer, correct? Whenever I look up the word "obstructionist" in the dictionary, why do I see a picture of E. Schmidt?
E. Schmidt August 26, 2012 at 11:35 AM
>>>Whenever I look up the word "obstructionist" in the dictionary, why do I see a picture of E. Schmidt?<<< You should also be seeing the pictures of all 71% of Dist. 2 residents who are against the Walmart TIF along with my picture. Take out the "undecideds" and the opposition rate sky rockets to 80%. I am far from alone in Dist. 2 and elsewhere in Ellisville. The survey of Dist. 3 is bearing-out the near same results. >>>Just because one of the dealerships is up for sale, that doesn't mean they have a buyer...<<< That doesn't mean here isn't a potential buyer or buyers...who now won't be able to to anything with the property if and when they buy it...like develop it themselves...if the P&Z and the CC place a moratorium on development of the two largest eye-sore dealerships right at the corner of Manchester and Kiefer Creek Rds. As a self-proclaimed champion of Free Enterprise, you should be against any effort by the city to meddle in the Free Market...like giving millions in taxpayer subsidy - TIF - to a multi-billion dollar global corporation or placing moratoriums on development. But, you are not. Which explains why is it is when I look up the term "corporate fascism" or "Big Government" I see your picture next to it.
E. Schmidt August 26, 2012 at 12:13 PM
>>>These council members will get voted out, termed out, or A9A'd out. But they still will have to live with the pall of this over them in the eyes of their neighbors...<<< I believe some of them do think they are not accountable because they either "know best" or they see their political careers are limited...and that goes for at least one with really big aspirations though he/she may not realize it yet. And you're right. They still have to live in the community long after they leave the council chambers. I don't think I would want to walk around Ellisville knowing that people hold me responsible for wrecking 100 units of affordable housing and throwing 200+ people out of town...but then again, I actually have a conscience that isn't easily deluded. The Amish call it "shunning." The Quakers call it "threshing."
mike k August 26, 2012 at 04:08 PM
In the end, you're bullying tactics are going to fail. Walmart is going to be built in Ellisville and hopefully you will move to another township and leave Ellisville property owners alone once and for all. By the way, your supposed poll is flawed when you leave out entire communities. When you conduct your own poll, it's kind of like putting the fox in charge of the hen house. Hire a professional firm to conduct a poll and then you might have some credibility.
Howard Roark August 26, 2012 at 04:29 PM
"Get off my lawn, with your facts and logic!" -mikey
E. Schmidt August 26, 2012 at 04:49 PM
Your are more than welcome to hire a professional firm yourself to cover all of Ellisville to prove that residents approve of a Walmart TIF. District 2 was the most affected area, so that is why we began there. But it won't change the fact that: In 2010 75% of attendees opposed a Walmart TIF at a Town Hall Meeting... In April 2011 64% of voters approved a half-cent sales tax so a Walmart-TIF or any TIF wouldn't be necessary...and In April 2012 anti-TIF mayoral candidates received 72% of the vote. In those three instances above, all districts were represented. See a pattern here? If you can't, try the Walmart in Eureka for those spectacles you so badly need. And the only bullies here are the Walmart Five (now Six, including Michelle Murray) who keep trying to force this project down the throats of Ellisville residents.
mike k August 26, 2012 at 06:13 PM
Your assumption that every vote in the mayoral contest for the boy Mayor and Michelle was a vote against Walmart is incredible. So in your world every voter in the Ellisville mayoral election was a one issue voter. Any of the 3 lawyers in my immediate family (1 son and 2 daughter-inlaws) would rip you to shreds in a court room.
E. Schmidt August 26, 2012 at 07:10 PM
Tell your lawyer relatives to go do something useful like defending Walmart employees forced to work off the clock. There's plenty of class action lawsuits still pending. And the jury in the Ellisville case has already spoken. We have an anti-TIF mayor. Live with it.
Ethos August 26, 2012 at 09:21 PM
I can't wait to see the anti-TIF mayor at the ground breaking ceremony for the Ellisville Wal-Mart at the intersection of Manchester Road and A9A Boulevard. That's going to be a Kodak moment.
Pathos August 26, 2012 at 09:40 PM
I can't wait to see mike k at the ground breaking ceremony for the Ellisville Wal-Mart at the intersection of Manchester Road and Kelly Boulevard. That's going to be a Kodak moment.
mike k August 26, 2012 at 09:48 PM
I might just start a recall effort of our boy Mayor. How do you like them apples?
E. Schmidt August 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Gridlock and Low Wage Way just down the street from Tube Sock Turnpike and Depends Drive,

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